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MSG.Mobius
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Topic: the states isnt that powerfullPosted: 30 July 2004 at 7:27pm |
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Yea but your taxes don't pay for the military, so if we decide we won't your cold land we can do harm. *My opinion is based purely on my hate Impulse-Guy |
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Posted: 30 July 2004 at 7:06pm |
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no we dont. what are you talking about. we got free health care. we get taxed about the same. |
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Posted: 30 July 2004 at 7:01pm |
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You inconsiderate fool. Did you ever stop to think that maybe somone on this forum has lost a friend in this war, or maybe more than just one friend? Obviously not or you would have chosen better words. The only time a war is truely pointless is when you give up on those who fight it. If I could bring my friends back from the grave and ask them questions about this war I'm sure they would give me answer quite different than what your lolly gaging arse could phatom. My friends didn't die for a bad cause, they died defending jerks like yourself who haven't earned the freedom they sleep under at which my friends put their lives on the line for. Why don't you just not talk until it's your turn to get called up to the front and actually DO something ray than say STUPID INANE thoughts. |
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Posted: 30 July 2004 at 6:51pm |
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Don't travel there by yourself, it's dangerous. We don't need another hostage losing his head. |
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Posted: 30 July 2004 at 5:45pm |
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I just got back from Iraq a few days ago, though this time I was there as a civilian. To myself, and those over there that I talked to, our cause is worthy enough, though everyone looks forward to coming home. When you say the the States aren't that powerful, it is obvious that you must feel some kind of deep down inferiority. The state of California is the world's 7th largest economy by itself, so that gives you an idea of the net worth of the entire US. Using a country's military as a yardstick to measure strength is not going to give you the most accurate results. The US is the engine that drives the worlds economy, and though the world could survive without us, it would enjoy a far lower standard of living.
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Posted: 30 July 2004 at 4:40pm |
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Posted: 30 July 2004 at 4:39pm |
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Canada has a very goo military. Theyy, and their snipers especially, earned a lot of respect in their help in Afganistan. I really don't want to hear or read any insults directed towards their military. Their government, or their people who are afraid of letting their military do their jobs fine, but don't say jack about their military. The people of Canada don't want a warfighting force. They wan't to be able to ease their conscience by sending off a few people on some peacekeeping missions for the UN. The US will handle any real threats, and if it's popular enough, they'll send some troops.
It's a combination of size, equipment, but also the trainingand type of training. The US Army has among the least caste or classist structures in the world. The British Army is still a pretty classist system, and the former Soviet Union and hence the former republics have no real NCO corps. We've been training them for almost a decade on how to have NCO's do more than bellow smack around new privates. Not too many armies have a history of privates and corporals taking charge and leading others. We were looked down upon by our European colleagues for having our NCO's too close to the privates. Somewhat true so they were seperated, but we were also albo to use our junior NCO's (corporals and sergeants) to fill in positions of the higher NCO's when thye had to fill in Officer slots. Yes Canada could have an Army about as good as ours if they wanted to spend the money, buy the equipment, and spend the time training, but could they actually afford to do so? |
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Posted: 30 July 2004 at 4:31pm |
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Since I'm deployed to the Middle East in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom (II), along with the rest of the 3,000 or so members of my brigade can I offer my thoughts? I'm not actually doing any fighting, just base security though. The closest thing I've seen is a couple vehicles shot up on their way in the gates, and of course hearing some shots outside the fence/wall. Nothing big though. Most of the Soldiers (and Sailors, Airmen, and Marines) that you see on CNN are just regular Joes (and Janes) that were picked for whatever reason to be interviewed. Many just were the closest ones to the reporter, or maybe the reporter saw someone with good hair and asked to interview him or her, or maybe even thought the Soldier was hot and wanted to hook up. It doesn't really matter though. It seems as if the person didn't say what you thought, then they were handpicked to sout off the company line. It doesn't work that way, usually. I was almost interviewed just because the public affiars person is my upstairs neighbor. I was out training though. |
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Posted: 28 July 2004 at 3:11pm |
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Im not sure if anyone said this because i skiped page 3-11. i just thought everyone would like to no they were in WW2 as well, they were at normandy,but America had 2 beaches and they were the hardest ones. ohwell Edited by lant |
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Posted: 28 July 2004 at 3:02pm |
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If worse terrorists show up then we'll kill them too. And the ones after that and the ones after that. Until everyone is to scared to terrorize anyone. Saddam got what was coming to him and so will anyone else who starts genocide like what Saddam did when had been mass murdering the Kurds and arresting innocent people. We should have done nothing about it sooner. I can't believe people like that Moore fellow who have a problem when we start rescueing a culture. Whats the difference between what we did saving the Kurds and freeing the other Iraqis and what we did for the Jews. Its better for a good person do die killing a bad person than both of them living. Edited by Blue Hopper |
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Posted: 28 July 2004 at 2:22pm |
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So the only people "whose thoughts actually matter" are those that agree with you? |
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Posted: 27 July 2004 at 12:59am |
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No.... they aren't used because of a possibility of another World War and many countries would shun the attacker because they used a device to kill countless people. |
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Posted: 26 July 2004 at 11:44pm |
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^Nukes have a lot of positive effects almost always over looked. If you have nukes no one will nuke you effectively eliminating the threat of an attack. The real scary thing is rouge states willing to sell/give the technology to terroists who will use them virtualy any whare with out warning.
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Posted: 26 July 2004 at 11:36pm |
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This post really disturbs me. If a nuke ever hit land anywhere, other than antartica milliions on inocent people would die. Thats why nukes are never used |
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Posted: 26 July 2004 at 10:51pm |
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I gave up caring about the war when i figured out every one on this fourm is to patreoticto care about american soldiers dieing for a bad cause. I bet if you asked any of the poor guys who are actualy fighiting (the ones whos thoughts realy matter) Not the ones picked to go on CNN tehy would tell you how much they are pissed for having to fight a pointless war. Sure a lot of good came from iraq but in ten years its still guna be a hot bed for terroists 10 times worse then it was with sadam.
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Posted: 26 July 2004 at 10:38pm |
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is
much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill What an outstanding quote! Pretty much says it all. One innocent life lost is to many- that's the truth. wars are terrible things, they cause great destruction and bring great pain to both the victor and the vanquished. I find it Ironic that here in America we will lose almost 50,000 people to automoblie accidents the vast majority of which are preventable. People just need to slow down and wear a seat belt and we'd put a terrific dent in that number and the coorsponding economic consquences associated with those collisions- no one writes letters to the editor, no one protests or has rallies. Heck people actually complain about DUI check points set up to get drunks off the road and keep the non drinking driver safe- we humans are sometimes so stupid and short sighted it makes one wonder how we made it this far. Or if we deserve to make it much further. Edited by Ajreaper |
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Posted: 26 July 2004 at 7:05pm |
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I DO care that civilians are killed... But I believe that they are minimal compared to the numbers stated. I also believe that consistency of information is important. Your case would hold no water in a courtroom.
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Posted: 26 July 2004 at 1:05pm |
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Nope, not really. Not me, not my people, not my family, not my friends...don't give a crap. When it begins happening to me/people that I love/Americans I might begin to care. It's not simply because...you don't know the future. When it's all said and done, the historians will judge and we'll know. But until then, we can't measure progress by the amount of lives lost nor can be put a price on freedom. If that boggles your mind, it's probably because your ancestors didn't fight the British. |
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Posted: 26 July 2004 at 12:54pm |
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so your saying you dont care that americains killed 10,000 , 12,000 or 52,000 civilians. and it dosnt matter. so if its not a good way to measure the costs what is? and why would you even say that its not? |
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Posted: 26 July 2004 at 12:40pm |
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