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    Posted: 22 July 2004 at 1:48am
hey, im in the mist of buying a autococker .. please
tell me one thats not ultra expensive but is relible
and is a good quality gun .. price range no more
then $450 please
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Get a stock 04 vert. They're under $400. Then save the rest to incest in a barrel kit. The stock cocker barrels are horrible, and you'll want a kit so you always have a good bore size match to prevent roll outs that closed bolts are famous for.
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get either a new or used 03 vf or 04 vf cocker made by wgp. i bought mine for about $200 used from a guy on pbnation.com i have seen some really nice cockers on pbnation for ur price range. i say u save up a lil more and get a used ebladed cocker for about 500-600

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Originally posted by jeep 98 custom jeep 98 custom wrote:

Get a stock 04 vert. They're under $400. Then save the rest to incest
in a barrel kit. The stock cocker barrels are horrible, and you'll want
a kit so you always have a good bore size match to prevent roll outs
that closed bolts are famous for.


i don't know about you, but i don't want to incest with a barrel kit..

your best bet is to pick up a stock 03-04 cocker from pbgear or another reputable store. i wouldn't buy used as your first foray into cockers, because some people will try to screw you over sending one that doesn't work as well as claimed.

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i myself wouldn't get an autococker.  They are too complicated.  My brother has had so many problems with his.(timing, leaks, velocity adjuster broke, 3-way broke, etc.)  I would just get a b2k4 and if u want to save more get pds with it.


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Get a 2k3 vert. Buy a nexus kit. Then buy a J+J ceramic or soemthing.

That should be just around the $450 mark if you know where to shop.

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Originally posted by MoNTYandTIMMoN MoNTYandTIMMoN wrote:

i myself wouldn't get an autococker.  They are too complicated.  My brother has had so many problems with his.(timing, leaks, velocity adjuster broke, 3-way broke, etc.)  I would just get a b2k4 and if u want to save more get pds with it.

Does he know the mechanics of an Autococker? Did he take the time to learn them and understand how they work? With about an hour or so of research, one can quickly understand how the Autococker works and the proper methods in timing and alleviate this problem completely.

I would purchase the 2004 Stock Autococker, which I think looks very sharp and has excellent pneumatics for a stock Autococker. The first upgrade I would make would be a barrel (leave the internals, with the proper tuming, and springing, your efficiency will be excellent) and then perhaps the reg. There's really not a whole lot that is bad about the '04.

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I agree with FI, but understand the cautionary note from montytimmon.  Cockers are a little more complicated than Tippmanns/Spyders.  It's not hard to figure out unless you take the short bus to school, but it will require a little bit of effort.  If you don't like to understand stuff or tinker, a cocker might not be for you.

Otherwise, get a new barrel - maybe even two, depending on what paint you play.  Rollout is a problem with cockers, so you want to make sure that you have a good bore match.

Unless you plan on going electronic at some point, I would make the next upgrade a new 3-way.  If you put a CT or Orracle 3-way on a cocker, you will be able to shorten the trigger pull to next to nothing.

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aight thanx for all of yours help ... yea im not one to
tinker wit stuff so i dun have to worry about that .. and
i like doing reaseach on guns to really get to know
them ... and now you all have helped me figure what
gun ima get next :) tanks for the help
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 heres a better idea save up for a bit longer and get a tactical cocker, they look sexy and would work very well for woodsball since you could get it in camo....
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Your a new player and your first gun is a Cocker.

You made a big mistake.


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i aint a bigginer .. i have a tippmann 98 sniper so i
aint begginer and i have had 3 other guns ... so
shhh! ... i never said i was new to the game i just
thought it was time time to up grade
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 he never said he was a beginner
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thanx for all of your help every one but could ya send
me sum links to the guns ur talking about
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Search for other posts by LoCo_HunTer i swear this has been posted 11,786 times
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Originally posted by jeep 98 custom jeep 98 custom wrote:

The stock cocker barrels are horrible

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kid on wgp forums selling a black worrbladed 2k3 with an orracle tickler, a blue delrin bolt and an egg with a better board. timing is already set and the worrblade is set on factory fast and settings for worrblade arent hard to do. all this fer 550 only cause the guns got stickers on it but they can be removed. and yeah, only sum stock cocker barrels are bad. the one on my nightkast was fine and it was only loud.
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Autococker Fund 100/500$$$$
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Originally posted by MSG.Mobius MSG.Mobius wrote:

Your a new player and your first gun is a Cocker.

You made a big mistake.

I have had the custom for a year and a half now its times to move on.


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